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Conceal Carry Takes Effect in Wisconsin: Here's What You Need To Know

Wisconsin residents previously holding concealed-carry permits from other states are required to apply for a Wisconsin-specific license.

 

Editor's note: The bullet points at the bottom of this article are a simplified version of the Concealed Carry Law. Click this link for the entire CCW law, frequently asked questions and links to other educational materials.

As of 12:01 a.m. today Wisconsin is officially a gun-friendly state.

On July 13 this year, Gov. Scott Walker signed into law Act 35, which made Wisconsin the 49th state in the country to allow residents to carry concealed weapons in public places. Nov. 1 has long been touted as the first day applications would be processed.

Before being able to carry a concealed weapon legally, however, Wisconsin residents must submit to a background check and complete a four-hour course on gun safety.

Parties looking to apply for concealed-carry licenses need to act fast. According to the Wisconsin Department of Justice website, applications received between Nov. 1 and Dec. 1 will be approved or denied within 45 days. Applications received after that time period are expected to be approved or denied within 21 days.

While the DOJ has comitted to processing applications as quickly as possible, initial demand will likely slow down response times.

So people in Hudson, for example, who have already been carrying outside of Wisconsin on a Minnesota permit will not be able to carry in Wisconsin until they get their paperwork in and out of the DOJ.

"One of the features of the Wisconsin law is that all Wisconsin residents can only carry on a Wisconsin permit," said area carry permit instructor Paul Blincow.

The reason for the change in protocol, Blincow explained, is that Minnesota and Wisconsin don't enjoy reciprocity when it comes to concealed-carry permits.

"Minnesota is not likely to honor a Wisconsin license because Wisconsin does not require a shooting exercise and Minnesota does. Minnesota law says that it will honor any states that are substantially similar and Wisconsin's (cirriculum) isn't."

As of this morning, any out-of-state concealed-carry permits issued to Wisconsin residents are not valid in Wisconsin.

While Act 35 is long and complex, here is a brief overview of the parts of the law that impact Hudson residents most:

The Basics

  • The cost of an application is $50
  • Wisconsin concealed-carry licenses are valid for five years
  • Apply by downloading an application and mailing it to the DOJ offices
  • Wisconsin concealed-carry licenses include firearms, knives (excluding switchblades), electric weapons and billy clubs
  • A concealed-carry license does not give its holder any new or additional rights to exercise self defense or defense of others
  • Any establishment banning firearms must provide a 5-inch by 7-inch sign located in a prominent place near all entrances

Concealed Carry and Businesses

  • Business owners or property occupants can prohibit license holders from being armed in their businesses
  • Employers can prohibit license-holding employees to be armed during working hours
  • Employers cannot prohibit license holding employees from keeping weapons stored in private vehicles on company parking grounds
  • An employer is generally not liable if he/she allows license holding employees to be armed and that decision results in injury or death

Concealed Carry and Schools

  • No one, including a concealed-carry licensee, can carry a firearm in or on the grounds of a school
  • "School grounds" include athletic fields, school buildings, recreation areas and any property owned, used or operated for school administration
  • It is a misdemeanor to carry firearms within 1,000 feet of school grounds without a concealed-carry license
  • Firearms may not be carried into public college and university buildings if the institution has posted a ban on concealed-carry weapons

Concealed Carry and Taverns

  • A "tavern" is any establishment that sells alcohol for consumption on the premises
  • It is illegal for concealed-carry license holders to be armed in taverns if they have consumed alcohol
  • A license holder faces up to 9 months in prison and a $10,000 fine if caught armed and intoxicated

Concealed Carry and Government Buildings

  • Firearms cannot be carried in any portion of a building that is a police station, sheriff‘s office, state patrol station, or the office of a Division of Criminal Investigation special agent of DOJ
  • Firearms cannot be carried in any portion of a building that is a county, state, or federal courthouse
  • Firearms cannot be carried in any portion of a building that is a municipal courtroom if court is in session.
  • Firearms cannot be carried in any portion of a building that is a prison, jail, house of correction, or secured correctional facility

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Corrections were made to this post at 10:20 a.m. on Nov. 1, 2011.

Related Topics: ACT 35, Guns, and Wisconsin Concealed Carry Bill
How do you feel about the new gun law? Tell us in the comments.

Thurston Howell III

6:50 am on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

"As of 12:01 a.m. today Wisconsin is officially a gun-friendly state." Uh is this objective journalism rearing it's ugly head again? Oh Joy. Wisconsin is gun friendly and teacher hateful. What a State!

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Hudson Resident

2:56 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

Teacher hateful? Keep dreaming Thursty. The teachers in Wisconsin are doing quite well financially. In fact many retire early at 55 with a take home check greater than when they were working. Not bad huh?

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Hudsoner

3:59 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

Hudson Resident
Are you done telling Fairy Tales? Do you have any factual proof that teachers retirement pay is higher than their salaries were? I know quite a few retired teachers, none of them receives more money now than they did during their working years! Bad story huh!

Joseph

8:50 am on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

Wisconsin has never honored any other state's permit until today. Anyone who was not a convicted felon and over 18, could carry openly (with few exceptions, cars, bars, 1000' of a school, state parks, and public buildings).

With a permit, one can now carry within the magical 1000' of a school, but still cannot carry on the grounds. The rest of the information is correct.

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Joseph

9:21 am on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

You are welcome Michael.

WIWildcat

9:29 am on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

I assume that "No one, including a concealed-carry licensee, can carry a firearm in or on the grounds a school" exempts law enforcement personnel (everyone's an editor, right? :-) Thanks for the information!

As an aside to "Thurston Howell III": how can that statement be a comment on the objectivity of journalism? The statement is a fact from the standpoint of law, and only someone with an agenda would view it as otherwise.

Teacher hateful? Huh. I see a ton of teachers able to keep their jobs, get better benefits, and enjoy less financially-stressed work environments. Wish Obama would get a clue like Walker has!

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Joseph

9:39 am on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

It only exempts police acting in an official capacity [as before]. There was a bill to allow off duty police to carry, but I do not remember if that is still in the works or not.

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Hudsoner

4:03 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

WIWildcat, you too, like fairy tales. provide facts for your statement that teachers get better benefits and enjoy less financially-stressed work environments. What I can see from the Hudson school district, the opposite is true!

Paul Blincow

9:42 am on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

There are several inaccurate statements in this story.
As Joseph points out, WI has NEVER honored Concealed Carry prior to Nov 1.

My statement to Jff was on the irony that although WI will honor several states' permits for out-of-state residents, a WI resident with those same permits would not be able to carry INSIDE WI even though they may have been carrying for years OUTSIDE of WI.

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Micheal Foley

10:28 am on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

Thanks for helping us square this away, Paul.

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Paul Blincow

11:15 am on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

Jeff,
Thanks for the edits. I can see where they cam in and the revisions make it a much better article.

Lori Madden

11:38 am on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

What about pocket knives, is there a rule on blade length. How many guys have been carrying "illegally" for years? Do they need to pay $50 for a permit now?

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Joseph

12:23 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

Generally 3" is okay to carry.

As for the 1000' school zone, it is a class B forfeiture, not a misdemeanor.

Here is the application:

http://www.doj.state.wi.us/dles/cib/ConcealedCarry/concealed-carry-application-11-11.pdf

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Rich Petersen

2:40 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

Any references for this general 3" rule?

I cannot find anything related to this legislation defining what a "knife" is. Sounds to me like if you carry any knife in your pocket you are now in violation of the law.

Lori Madden

3:07 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

Thanks Rich, I read through it too and it just says knife. Common sense says Joseph would be right. I went to the statute and it only specified what a switchblade is, which are illegal.

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Renee

9:06 am on Wednesday, November 2, 2011

Common sense also says we don't need more guns on the street.

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Joseph

9:25 am on Wednesday, November 2, 2011

Renee, please provide evidence that says more guns equals less crime. Check out http://www.gunfacts.info/ and see for yourself. They give you all their resources and you can verify for yourself if that evidence is true or not. Also, John Lott wrote a book, More Guns, Less Crime.

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Renee

9:47 am on Wednesday, November 2, 2011

If you google "the myth that more guns equal less crime" you will find many sources that contradict Mr. Lott's conclusions. Here's one:
http://crab.rutgers.edu/~goertzel/mythsofmurder.htm

But again, common sense tells me more guns on the street will not help.

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Joseph

10:24 am on Wednesday, November 2, 2011

If you want to go against what Lott found, then fine. How about the FBI data that says he is right?

Joseph

3:15 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

http://www.knife-expert.com/sta-law.htm

http://www.donath.org/Rants/StateKnifeLaws/

Knives are not covered under state preemption (66.0409), so local municipalities can make ordinances regarding the blade length.

http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-189095.html

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Rich Petersen

5:13 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

Thanks for the links Joseph. Like the person on one of the forums said it looks like the state laws are clear as mud. Apart from switchblades, it appears the previous and new laws are intentionally vague.

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Joseph

5:18 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

You are welcome Rich. This is a good reason why we need to strengthen state preemption (66.0409). It is impossible for a police officer to know all the laws in the city he works in. How are we to know every law in the various cities we travel through on a daily basis?

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Lori Madden

11:08 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

Joseph, thanks for the link I had read the switchblade stuff but didn't see the blade size. So my husbands pocket knife has to be less than 3 inches Not equal to. Wow get out the tape measure :)

Thurston Howell III

6:42 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

Joseph, Thanks for self correcting your previous statement about the within 1000 ft limit of schools. However, You can now add the Government Center and all other County owned buildings in St. Croix County to locations where guns will be prohibited.
Too bad, so sad.

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Micheal Foley

6:50 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

Does anyone know if this means if the buildings at Troy Beach and Homestead Parklands are gun-free?

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Joseph

9:01 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

You are welcome Thurston.

Each municipality can make an ordinance and post. However, I am a firm believer they cannot make such an ordinance because it is more stringent than state preemption (66.0409), however, in Act 35, they can post the buildings, but they cannot post the buildings without the ordinance. It is quite the conundrum.

Michael, I do not know if the buildings at Troy Beach and Homestead Parklands are posted. I have not had the time or ability/resources to keep up with each municipality.

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Hudson Resident

9:08 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

I'm sure the bad guys will leave their guns in the car when entering the "gun free" zones..... Sure, you betcha Thursty.

Hudsoner

10:29 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

Hudson Resident, you must have lived a life in shear fear! Considering that the bad guys always had guns and did not leave them in their cars, and you poor soul had nothing on you to defend yourself with! How often did you need a gun for self defense during the last several years?

I can tell you, I never needed one, and I live in Hudson since early 84 and traveled every day for work into the cities! I never had the need for a gun, never ever!

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Crimson Mister

7:25 am on Thursday, November 3, 2011

I have never, ever been in a motorcycle accident in 30 years of riding yet I still wear a helmet because I know the first time I need one and don't have it will likely be the last time I need it. I also have friends who don't worry about it so they don't wear a helmet and that is fine, it's their choice.

I guess Hudsoner thinks I'm a coward for using all of the tools available to protect myself from serious injury or death at the hands of another.

Lori Madden

2:23 am on Wednesday, November 2, 2011

Thurs ton Joseph posted earlier knives Less than 3 inches and not switchblades are ok. 3 inches or longer are illegal. http://www.knife-expert.com/sta-law.htm

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Rob

6:15 am on Wednesday, November 2, 2011

If you have any questions regarding CWP training or or law contact www.e2c.us or 1-866-371-6111 and the Instructors at Equip 2 Conceal will be happy to help you.

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Joseph

7:15 am on Wednesday, November 2, 2011

Wisconsin Carry, Inc will be offering free classes to its members in the near future.

http://www.wisconsincarry.org/default.html#

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Thurston Howell III

8:00 am on Wednesday, November 2, 2011

Just wondering why is it not possible to comment on the Sheila Harsdorf article?

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Micheal Foley

9:32 am on Wednesday, November 2, 2011

Looks like the author has disabled commenting on those blog posts.

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Joseph

9:42 am on Wednesday, November 2, 2011

That is a shame. I guess some people do not like dissenting voices? How is anyone supposed to resolve issues if you cannot speak?

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Hudson Resident

8:00 am on Thursday, November 3, 2011

Maybe she doesn't want anonymous fruitcakes taking potshots at her from the sidelines.

Hudsoner

9:37 pm on Wednesday, November 2, 2011

I have a question concerning the 1000 feet around a school. if I take the middle school in Hudson, the 1000feet would include a large section of Carmichael. if I would travel on this road, with a gun or two in my car (I have some hunting guns), and I don't have a concealed carry license, would I violate the law, just driving along the school with no intention to stop except at the Stop sign or the pedestrian crossings?

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Joseph

10:22 pm on Wednesday, November 2, 2011

If your firearms are unloaded, encased, and locked (per federal law) then you are okay as long as you don't go on the school property. Wisconsin law is just a [$1000] forfeiture if caught. If you have a permit, you can carry up to the property line. The permit only applies for handguns, not long guns.

nick bard

3:14 am on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

A lot of the people on here seem against weapons its not the weapon that is dangerous a weapon can't shoot itself its the beholder that is bad u people are just scared of the weapon in the wrong hands try living in neighbor HOODS I have lived in people are shot at daily we would just like to be safe for once

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Dan Somers

10:19 pm on Sunday, November 25, 2012

I read the Wi. state law on knives and according to what I read the State of Wi. has no length requirements on knives...Local municipalities do...Milwaukee, Sheboygan, Wauwatosa and several others..in those locales the average pocket knife of 3 inches would be illegal. The knife law for the state of Wi. is suspiciously vague..However, it is clear that switchblades and gravity blades are illegal. I live in a rural area and many of us do carry pocket knives of one kind or another without problems...

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