St. Croix County Republicans Campaigning for 'Democrat' Weix in Wisconsin Senate Recall Primary
Wisconsin Democratic Party Chairman Mike Tate says, "Clearly, this is a sneaky, dirty trick designed to confuse voters, create chaos and delay democracy." Harsdorf campaign denies involvement.
The St. Croix County Republican Party, headed up by Chairman Jesse Garza, has begun a last-minute blitz to defeat Democratic Wisconsin State Senate candidate Shelly Moore in Tuesday's primary by backing her opponent.
Isaac Weix, who recently ran for Wisconsin State Assembly as a Republican, entered the Senate recall race last month as a protest candidate in a statewide GOP effort to delay the recall elections. Now local Republicans are going beyond the scope of that original stated intention by actively devoting resources to a candidate running in the Democratic primary. The winner will face Sen. Sheila Harsdorf in a recall election on Aug. 9.
Garza sent the following email to some of his fellow Republicans on Sunday afternoon along with an audio file of a robocall message now going out to prospective voters in the 10th Senate District:
Hello Everyone-
This has been a great week in our efforts to defeat Shelly Moore, outside special interests, and WEAC. The parade in River Falls had over 100 family, supporters, and friends (even a few dogs and one horse) walking with Sheila!! The democrats are very scared that we will defeat Shelly in the Primary by asking all of you to vote for Isaac Weix. They sent out an email yesterday referencing our efforts. We need you all to vote this Tuesday. Let's get back to enjoying our summer and not having to worry if the special interests from all over the country will be taking over the Wisconsin Senate.
Imagine arriving at your polling location Tuesday and voting for Isaac Weix and taking Shelly Moore out of the election! Your vote will wipe away the millions of dollars they are spending to defeat Sheila Harsdorf.
Attached is a message that is going out to people through out the 10th Senate District share it with family and friends!
Jesse Garza
Chairman, Republican Party of St. Croix County
On a conference call Monday morning with members of the media, Wisconsin Democratic Party Chairman Mike Tate issued the following statements:
"We all know is primary day, and this is, frankly, a primary that should never have been. The Republican party, knowing that their senators were facing certain defeat if the recalls happened tomorrow, pulled a dirty trick by running fake democrats."
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"Their initial and stated goal was allegedly to delay the elections. Now they are trying to flat-out hijack the entire recall process, steal these elections and silence the voices of tens of thousands of people who signed petitions to hold accountable the senators who turned their back on the people."
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"Clearly, this isn't being upfront or transparent. Clearly, this is a sneaky, dirty trick designed to confuse voters, create chaos and delay democracy. They are making a mockery of their claim that they are being upfront about these fake democrats. This is fundamentally dishonest, deceitful and republicans should stop these tactics immediately. Unfortunately this has become the status quo for Scott Walker's Wisconsin and his republican party."
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"This shows how low the republicans will stoop to keep their grip on power. It shows how terrified the republicans are of losing these recalls and how vulnerable their six republican senators are. Going into these recalls in the next month, the democrats clearly have momentum and we will flip the state senate in August."
Hudson Patch contacted the Harsdorf campaign for comment and spokesperson Nathan Duerkop said that despite sharing office space with the St. Croix County Republican Party, the Harsdorf campaign isn't involved in coordinating the robocalls or get-out-the-vote efforts on behalf of Weix.
"We share space in name and that's about it," Duerkop said. "I'm also on some of their email lists, so I get all the emails that everyone else is getting, but the Harsdorf campaign is in no way involved in the St. Croix County party's efforts."
Duerkop would neither endorse nor repudiate the party's recent tactics and said "what they want to do is up to them." He elaborated that Harsdorf never endorsed the tactic of running Republicans in the Democrat primary in the first place.
The 10th Senate District Recall Primary Election takes place Tuesday, July 12. Democratic candidate Shelly Moore and protest candidate Isaac Weix will be on the ballot. Polls open at 7 a.m. across the district.
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UPDATE (4:05 p.m., July 11, 2011): St. Croix County Republican Party Chairman Jesse Garza sent the following statement to Hudson Patch:
"We find it interesting that Moore calls this primary effort a 'manipulation of democracy.' I think she needs to look at her role in this whole recall mess she has created. There would be no protest candidate if they waited for the 2012 election cycle."
"The Democrats have just created an environment where legislators elected will potentially avoid solving the big problems we face in this state and our country if they fear a recall and a smear campaign. This recall is a must-win fight for NEA leadership (Moore being a big part of that leadership) which is trying to maintain its power over the taxpayers and the state as a whole. This recall they got us into is not about how they are trying to help the people of the 10th Senate District or even their own membership, this is about their ability to maintain power pure and simple. WEAC's vehicle for that is the Democrat Party."
"We are asking people to vote for Issac Weix to put an end to this ridiculous effort by Moore so we can all go back to the process as it was intended to be played out."
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Thurston Howell III
1:36 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Shelly Moore's response to fake democrats: http://youtu.be/H_8prWrNlI8
Jene
1:53 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
By not continuing to publicly denounce the Republican party, Sheila Harsdorf is guilty by association. Disgusting.
Thurston Howell III
2:09 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
If you want to know what Republicans do to elected officials who go against them, just think back to the handful of Republicans who bucked Pawlenty on taxes a few years ago. I was told their "fellow" republicans physically removed their office furniture from there legislative offices and left it out on the lawn. Nice fellow those Republicans are. Sheila finds herself between a rock and a hard place and she's chosen the Rock.
Jene
5:47 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Precisely why one has to be so careful when looking to sell one's soul.
Ted
2:40 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Harsdorf voted right down the line to rubber stamp Walkers radical right wing corporate agenda. Now she wants to us to see her as a moderate.
Not all republicans sold out their constituents like Harsdorf did. Moderate Republican Dale Schultz had the courage to represent the best interests of his constituents and stand up to the rest of the republican radicals and vote against the Walker-Harsdorf right wing corporate agenda calling it a typical republican overreach.
So now the republicans are actively pushing a fake democrat in the primary. The fake candidate has never won an election as a republican, not even a primary. So now these republicans are working to distort the results of a democratic primary with their loser fake candidate .
This is a sign of fear. Harsdorf and the Republicans are afraid they will lose on August 9th. Harsdorf's whole campaign has been to sling mud at her opponent hoping something will stick. She has given us no good reasons why we should vote for her. Harsdorf is no longer one of us, it's time for her to go.
Vote tomorrow for Shelly Moore. Shelly has been running a positive issue orientated campaign and will be a Senator with integrity who will actually represent all of us.
Tammy Tollefson
2:56 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Hell has started freezing over since the Republicans started promoting a Democrat. Even the Devil himself can't compete with this devious and underhanded play. Watch out for flying pigs next.
Micheal Foley
3:00 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Jesse Garza sent us a copy of the robocall and it's now up on this story under "videos."
Micheal Foley
4:07 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
... and now we just updated the story with Jesse Garza's statement.
Shannon
4:42 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Is a statement from the Moore campaign forthcoming?
Micheal Foley
4:45 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
@Shannon: The Moore campaign had Mike Tate speak for them. The call was arranged by Gillian Morris, who is acting as the Moore campaign's spokesperson and press secretary.
Shannon
4:47 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Thanks Micheal. I got confused flipping between articles.
KTinWI
4:28 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Wait a minute. Someone help me out here. Clearly, Sheila Harsdorf is the Republican Party's candidate. Are they obligated to form a PAC to do this sort of thing on behalf of Isaac Weix? Has one been created for this purpose? If not, I think they've got some problems.
Shannon
4:40 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
A PAC would have to be registered with the Government Accountability Board.
KTinWI
4:34 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Jesse Garza, you are completely devoid of integrity and honesty and that reflects on your actual candidate, Sheila Harsdorf. Had Senator Harsdorf wanted to save the taxpayers the expense of this sham, all she would've had to do was say so. She, too, has lost her moral compass. Shame on your lying ways. How do you expect your moderates to stick with this stuff?
Shannon
4:37 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Sorry Jesse, the citizens of Wisconsin are granted the authority to perform a recall election by Section 12 of Article XIII of the Wisconsin Constitution. It is a long, involved process, and very telling that over 23,000 signatures were collected in support of recalling Sheila Harsdorf. Maybe one day you will understand that a lot of people don't like the way Sheila Harsdorf is doing her job, and you will stop crying foul.
Here's an article on Shelly Moore that is worth reading.
http://www.progressive.org/rc071111.html
Tammy Tollefson
4:41 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
RE: Garza:
He calls this the "recall mess she has created." I think he needs to look in his own back yard to see that the disarray was created by Walker and eagerly supported by Harsdorf.
Again he remarks, "NEA leadership ...trying to maintain its power over the taxpayers..." Garza has a pretty narrow focus. I'm not a teacher, I don't have kids in the schools, no elderly parents nor veterans in my family. To me, this is about the dismantling of decades of hard fought rights of citizens to care for one another and protect their rights, not strip them away leaving people, the environment and our futures in crisis.
Finally, "...vote for Issac Weix to put an end to this ridiculous effort... The GOP chair got one thing right--that this is a rediculous effort. Unfortunately, his myopic vision blinds him to the arrogant waste of taxpayer trust his party is pushing onto the voters of Senate District 10.
athomemom
4:57 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Is ANYONE surprised that Moore supporters would lie to parade officials and tell them that S Moore was "on the other side of the float" when questioned? (see related article on HudsonPatch). A candidate who has no integrity would be expected to have supporters who would LIE on her behalf. Moore and her backers have a complete lack of character and are not to be trusted. VOTE WEIX tomorrow and let's let the grown-ups continue to carry on the state's business.
KTinWI
5:05 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
If you can't do better than "paradegate," vagabond, you've got serious problems. How much is this Harsdorf-sponsored fake primary costing our local economy?
athomemom
5:10 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Parade-gate, email-gate, Youtube-gate..... quite a few controversies in just a couple of months. If the Dems hadn't pushed the recall button and made a hasty decision on such a NEA/union rabid candidate, perhaps they could have strengthened their efforts to put through a more principled candidate in the next legislative election.
Tammy Tollefson
5:14 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Seriously? Not being in a parade unit is all you've got? Here's one for ya: Harsdorf's felony level lies about Shelly Moore campaigning on school time? Class I felony if prosecuted and convited--6 months of jail time. How does that compare to missing a parade?
Jene
5:15 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
I wouldn't say that parade-gate or email-gate or youtube-gate are anywhere near as important or damaging as lying-gate, lockstep-gate, or avoidance-gate. Up next: Debate-gate.
KTinWI
5:17 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Yes, I can see these are MAJOR, MAJOR issues to you, vagabond. At least you would like to make them so. The problem with your claim is that most people are not stupid. They know garbage and ridiculousness when they see it and hear it. All this chest-thumping on non-issues does is turn independents and moderate republicans away.
athomemom
5:24 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
I can't believe that you are obtuse enough to miss the point.......her actions speak to her character. As for Ms Harsdorf being "lock-step" - LAUGHABLE!!! She voted with the party that she was elected by her constituents to represent! Lock-step seems to be more of a union adjective in any case. Forced dues (extortion) to buy political power.
KTinWI
5:31 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
vagabond -- you're over the top, which is the problem with the Republican Party these days. As soon as corporations get their money out of elections, then the unions can. By the way, union dues DO NOT go to campaigns (unlike corporate contributions). It's illegal. Corporations made sure of that.
Jene
5:35 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Vagabond- ICYMI Harsdorf is now claiming she has nothing to do with the Republicans in St. Croix County. Unless you are railing against Harsdorf for breaking her commitment to her Republican friends in that instance, you have no ground to stand on re: Harsdorf doing what she was elected to do by standing with Republicans.
Tammy Tollefson
5:39 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
vagabond: "her actions speak to her character." I couldn't agree more. Shelly Moore's chosen profession, teaching, shows her to be interested in childrens' futures and the promise they hold for a better tomorrow. Harsdorf, on the other hand, wants to squeeze dry funding for the education system in this state along with undermine the care for our seniors and veterans. All for the benefit of her political and corporate masters. Stay classy Sheila. ;-)
KTinWI
5:41 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Well said, Tammy!
KTinWI
5:44 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Weix won't win, Jene. Not a chance. Too many moderate Republicans (you know, a/k/a the Republican Party's base!) and Independents reject this whole Weix fiasco. I'm one of those Independents, but have spoken with many others.
Jene
5:46 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
KTinWI- I have spoken with many of Sheila's former supporters who stopped supporting her *because* of these shenanigans. It was the final straw for many.
KTinWI
5:50 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Jene -- I hear you! I'm one of those "outside special interests" who's been working my arse off in the recall. Funny, I live in Somerset and work in Hudson... Didn't know that qualified me as an "outside special interest." Maybe that's because I'm not a huge corporation!
Shannon
5:56 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
I, too, have spoken with many former Sheila supporters who don't approve of this "fake" primary. It really is, for me anyway, about doing a job. For example - Dean Knudson. He and I will never agree on anything. I would never vote for him. However, he has answered every single one of my emails. He held those "town hall" meetings. He is out there doing his job. I wouldn't expect him to agree with me on much of anything, but he is civil in his correspondence to me.
Sheila needs to do some introspection. She's changed, and now Shelly Moore is within 5 points of her in the latest straw poll. When will she get the message?
William Welbes
7:44 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
I am really getting worried with these deep delving rebuplican watch dogs. What scandle are they going to unleash next? Over due book gate? Or parking meter fine gate? I can fully understand why republicans refuse to discuss any factual issues when they have such earth shattering and compelling stuff to drool over. I am sorry but this is getting pathetic.
Mrs. Right
3:02 pm on Tuesday, July 12, 2011
Wouldn't be any cost if the phony recall elections had not been perpetrated by the unions. Recall elections have never been used for the purpose of changing duly elected officials because you don't like they way they vote on ONE issue. They are designed to remove someone from office for malfeasance in public office. Harsdorf did not commit malfeasance in public office. She voted her conscience in an attempt to balance WI's budget, which we are required by law to do. After 8 years of the Dems in control in Madison, running up bills we can't pay, something had to change. I'll bet for every call Harsdorf got yelling at her about Walker's Budget Bill, she got two calls from constituents telling her to stand firm. Your side isn't the only one she's heard from. So quit claiming she didn't listen to you. And knowing she would take heat, literally, from the Progressive Left, she voted for the bill. The time for change is at the next regular election, not running up recall tabs with taxpayer money that no municipality has, just because you lost and don't like the result.
Happy Badger
11:22 pm on Tuesday, July 12, 2011
Mrs. Right,
I’m not aware that the recall statute proscribes malfeasance as the only justifiable use of the recall. Would misfeasance or nonfeasance suffice?
You flatly state, "Recall elections have never been used for the purpose of changing duly elected officials because you don't like they way they vote on ONE issue." Sen. George Petak was recalled from the state senate in 1996 because of ONE issue: voting for a sales tax increase that affected Racine county (among other counties). He had the legal authority from the voters to make a tough call, and he did it. But, enough of his constituents judged that he was failing to represent them, so they recalled him before they had the chance to oust him in the next election cycle. The law worked as it was designed, just as it is today. ."
Jene
4:58 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
"We are asking people to vote for Issac Weix to put an end to this ridiculous effort by Moore so we can all go back to the process as it was intended to be played out."
Two words (or one hyphenated word): Write-in.
Tammy Tollefson
5:14 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
I was thinking the very same thing!
William Welbes
7:46 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
And if he wins then we all vote for him in the election and oust Sheila. Either way we win.
Shannon
7:51 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
WW ~ I was all excited for this win-win scenario, but what if Weix makes Sheila look like a RINO?
KTinWI
5:02 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Just for giggles, I checked the Star Observer site. Don't fall over in your chairs, but not a peep out of them about this. If they did have an article, it would be written by Margaret Ontl, claiming Shelly Moore is behind the Republican Party's total hypocrisy, followed by some Ann Coulter quotes about Democratic demons. It would then be followed up by a blog from Sandy Gehrke citing viewings of Shelly entering the offices of the Republican Party and Sheila Harsdorf, sending the emails and then stealing some Harsdorf signs on the way out.
Tammy Tollefson
5:16 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Don't forget Meredith Berg's blather contribution to the letters to the editor that Shelly is the Devil in teacher's clothing just waiting to abort all Republicans' babies.
KTinWI
5:20 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Sorry, Tammy, I must have missed that gem! Priceless, I'm sure! Won't have any effect on moderate Republicans or Independents... Can't wait for tomorrow night!
athomemom
5:19 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Don't hold your breath for those debates to happen........may be rendered unnecessary by tomorrow evening.
KTinWI
5:26 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Not if the Republican Party keeps turning its back on its moderate members and Independents. And that'll get worse for the Harsdorf campaign after the redistricting fiasco comes to light in the next week and a half.
Jene
5:29 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
If Weix wins, there will still be an election on the 9th. I am guessing that any reputable news organization (looking at you, Mike Foley) or group who would be hosting debates would still allow a write-in candidate to debate, since she's clearly invested in the race.
KTinWI
5:58 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
I'VE GOT IT -- Sheila Harsdorf and Jesse Garza should be honest and just come right out and say that the only "INSIDE special interests" allowed are huge corporations! C'mon, let's put it out there and be honest for a change. Corporations are the ONLY "inside" special interests Harsdorf listens to.
country boy
6:03 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
TH3,KTinWI,TT,Gene,Shannon..... Read this little item and tell me your candidate is HONEST. Smells a lot like big union money to me. At this point both candidates have quite a bit of dirt under their rugs, but still continue to sling their mud. Lets get rid of both SM & SH and start fresh. Oh, and keep the outside money out of the race......ya right!
http://mediatrackers.org/2011/07/shelly-moore-purchased-minnesota-mailing-lists/
Jene
6:08 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
"According to Moore’s opponent" is one major red flag. And when you provide a link to the actual campaign finance documents (or at least a more specific reference so one could find EXACTLY where the proof is), I may take your "news" more seriously. We owe it to each other to at least vet such claims.
Marcia
6:14 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
man you libs seem so scared on here, talking write-in already? Shelly Moore is a dishonest person. A union puppet, who's followers will lie about her being "behind the float" What losers! Vote for Weix! Stop the union power grab!
Shannon
6:20 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
You lost me at "libs" Marcia. It's not about the float Marcia. It's not about name calling. None of this recall is about the minutia that you keep flinging out there to distract from Sheila's voting record. Maybe some day you and Sheila will get that.
And if you're touting Mr. Weix as a paragon of honesty, you are the loser.
Jene
6:32 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Marcia- the GOP seems to forget that the state of Wisconsin has LAWS and an established process we all must follow. Duerkop seems to think that if they can somehow eke out a win, it's all over in District 10. I just feel the need to remind the GOP that we have laws that must be followed, and processes that must be followed, and that it is incorrect to assume that if the fakes win tomorrow, we're done. The dangerous power grab we need to stop is the one the GOP has been trying to execute.
Jene
6:41 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Oh my! I forgot one very important fact!! It seems all of you have, too, be you a Moore supporter or a Moore basher. The election will still be held on August 9th NO MATTER WHAT because we also have an independent candidate running. Not surprised us average citizens forgot, but am floored Harsdorf's camp and the St. Croix Republicans didn't catch that tidbit.
KTinWI
6:46 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Jene -- As far as I'm aware, the original candidate who filed as an Independent never completed the paperwork or submitted signatures, so he won't be on the ballot.
Jene
6:50 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
KTinWI- D'OH! You're right, wasn't looking at the current lineup. I'll own that information fail- the independent is NOT on the ballot. Sorry, folks. As you were.
Thurston Howell III
7:31 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Oh Really Marcia? It is Shelly Moore who is dishonest? I think not. You show me the evidence!
Isaac Weix is not an honest candidate! On MPR this morning he claimed that he was a Democrat because he got enough signatures to run in the primary.
http://tinyurl.com/64hymbc
Then why does his FaceBook page list the following: Party: REPUBLICAN! Do you really want to vote for someone who is so blatantly dishonest? http://tinyurl.com/6br8vnv Politicians routinely "stretch the truth" few are so totally dishonest as Isaac Weix.
Marcia
6:30 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
No outside money for Moore? Hahahaha!!!!
https://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmediatrackers.org%2F2011%2F07%2Fshelly-moore-purchased-minnesota-mailing-lists%2F&h=KAQAH8lF0
Jene
6:34 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
That link has already been posted. I will direct you to the comment I left when it was posted earlier.
Shannon
6:34 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Who claimed there was no outside money for Moore? Just like Sheila has Americans for Prosperity, etc., Shelly has her supporters as well.
This is different from claiming that the recall petitions against Republican Senators were circulated by outside special interest groups AND that the protests were all out of state agitators. Of course, the recall petitions against Democrats were circulated by a firm in Colorado that was hired by the Republican party.
KTinWI
6:36 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Here's the difference, Marcia: Shelly Moore never claimed not to be taking PAC money. Of course she has to -- she's a challenger in a very short campaign. Sheila Harsdorf is the only one who's constantly ranted about PAC money, and yet now -- after 23 years in elected office -- she's changed her tune. Hypocrisy! She's a 23-year incumbent. Why does she need PAC money??
country boy
6:30 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Jene, All I see is red flags and shirts proclaiming Moore is the "one"on this blog. Kind of like BHO is the "anointed one" since he rides along on the union buggy. As far as providing links, I thought I would put it out there for all you lib blog hogs to bite on. How does it taste to have have your candidate siphoning money from the unions and yet proclaiming/portending that SM is soooo clean. Looks like SM is just as dishonest. The truth still hurts when it comes to campaign financing. Dirt is dirt no matter what side has it. Get over it!
Jene
6:35 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Unions cannot contribute to campaigns. End of story. Show me where in her paperwork she's taken money from unions, and I'll take you seriously. I'm looking at her filings, give me a page number to back up these claims.
KTinWI
6:37 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
As opposed to Harsdorf's INSIDE special interest corporate money? Please. Harsdorf is the only one who always stated she'd never take PAC money.
KTinWI
6:42 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Jene -- you're right. As I stated above, unions may not contribute to elections -- it's illegal. Only corporations can. They saw to that.
KTinWI
6:31 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Marcia a/k/a Sandy Gehrke -- This is a farce and a complete waste of taxpayer dollars and you know it. Weix LIED to get his name on this primary ballot, Harsdorf LIED about opposing it, and Garza LIED about the St. Croix Republican Party's contributions to this. You can't rant these facts away.
Jene
6:37 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Yes. on June 6th, the Harsdorf campaign gave the St. Croix County Republicans $1,500. Lies lies lies from Garza and Harsdorf.
Marcia
6:47 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
KT and all other Moore lovers...Weix can run for anything he want's. Harsdorf had nothing to do with Weix running. Nothing to do with the robo calls. You have no facts! Facts are Moore is a person who only has to do what the union says. She has proven she has no problem with breaking rules of any kind.
KTinWI
6:53 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Sandy, er, Marcia... Remember when you ranted and raved awhile back upon learning that We Are Wisconsin was on a separate floor in the same building as the St. Croix County Dems office? Remember that? I do. Now you have the St. Croix Republican Party IN THE SAME OFFICE as the Harsdorf campaign, and our Senator didn't know about the robocalls and emails that went out?
The only candidate running with any kind of integrity right now is Shelly Moore. Weix lied on his filing paperwork and Sheila only works for her INSIDE special interests.
Jene
6:55 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
The facts are, Weix is being funded by the Republicans, and Harsdorf is funding the Republicans that are funding him. It's all laid out in the campaign finance forms filed with the GAB. Doesn't matter how you feel about what Weix is doing, the money trail is indisputable.
William Welbes
7:52 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Funny I thought Weix was running for the same party that Sheila belongs too, and I wonder where his funding coming from? I have yet to here any facts from you to date.
William Welbes
11:41 am on Sunday, July 17, 2011
Please explain something, the state records indicate about 36% of state workers are unionized. How can unions be running this when they constitue less than 16% of the total workforce? Have you thought that maybe the residents are the ones driving this? And do you realize that many of them are alienated moderate republicans who are embarassed and sick of your conservative absurd and hypocritical values. I was a republican and I voted with my feet as have many friends. The conservatives are only succeeding in tearing the party apart. Walker and his machine are just to out of touch to realize it.
Marcia
6:51 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
jene, what was the money for?
KTinWI
6:55 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
What was Harsdorf's money for?
Jene
7:00 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
When you donate money to a campaign, you don't get to dictate how it is used. Sheila's campaign gave $1500 to The St. Croix Republicans in June, and the St. Croix Republicans have been spending money on all of these robo calls and using their computers to generate emails supporting Weix. We don't know yet how much money the St. Croix Republicans have spent on Weix, but we will when the next filing is due.
Marcia
7:02 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
R U KIDDING ME! No union money for MOORETAXES!! Let's put it simply. UNION $ goes to Democratic party. Democratic party gives $ to MOORE. But it's not union $. Really?
Jene
7:08 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
We don't have a candidate claiming she is unaffiliated with her party. You have two. If you would do me the favor of actually responding to the issues the article addresses, I may be willing to entertain a lengthy discussion about campaign finance, but not before.
KTinWI
4:38 am on Tuesday, July 12, 2011
Marcia -- Let me try to clarify this for you. Union dues cannot be used toward any candidate's election. Corporations, on the other hand, can contribute to a candidate's election.
Unions can use money VOLUNTARILY contributed by their members to form a PAC to support their causes. Corporations, of course, can also do that.
Marcia
7:10 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
JENE< you need to elevate
Jene
7:13 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
You need to stop trying to change the subject. I am being respectful, I am not making any untrue claims. I am prepared to back up my statements with information, not rhetoric. All I ask is you do the same.
Thurston Howell III
7:15 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Isaac Weix is not an honest candidate! On MPR this morning he claimed that he was a Democrat because he got enough signatures to run in the primary. They why does his FaceBook page list the following: Party: REPUBLICAN, Do you really want to vote for someone who is so blatantly dishonest? http://tinyurl.com/6br8vnv
Jene
7:18 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
And why did the Wisconsin Republican Party give him $750 in June?
Marcia
7:19 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
jene, i was commenting on your comments, how am i changing the subject?
Jene
7:27 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Your earlier comment was: "KT and all other Moore lovers...Weix can run for anything he want's. Harsdorf had nothing to do with Weix running. Nothing to do with the robo calls. You have no facts! Facts are Moore is a person who only has to do what the union says. She has proven she has no problem with breaking rules of any kind."
Starting with the first claim you made: I agree.
Next claim-Harsdorf has nothing to do with Weix,
Next claim-Harsdorf had nothing to do with robo calls.
Jene
7:19 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Weix's campaign finance paperwork: http://cfis.wi.gov/ReportsOutputFiles/0104468SpecialPre-Primary2011(Sen.2,8,10,14,18,32&Assm.48)8cc9771201175831AMGAB2Report.pdf
Marcia
7:26 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
TH 3 , WEIX is a protest candidate! Where is the dishonesty? Get the log out of ur eye.
William Welbes
7:58 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
What a joke. Get some poor chronic election loser to run as a schill to test the waters for Sheila. What happens if he wins and everyone votes for him in protest. I know a few republicans that cant make the jump to moore but do want to unload Harsdorf. I wonder if the republicans actually thought this through?
Thurston Howell III
9:28 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Marcia, Are you a Marxist? Did you know that one of their dictums is "The Ends justify the Means" Seems like you are engaging in Marxist tactics here.
Happy Badger
11:21 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Clear something up for me if you will Marcia. I've been following politics for over three decades now, from local to presidential. I'm a bit unclear on what's meant by the term "protest candidate." You use it as if we all have a clear, shared understanding of what you, or what Mr. Weix, mean. What's the significance of "protest" candidate? When Weix announced, and when the state GOP justified the strategy, I took it to mean that the purpose of a "protest candidate" was to delay the general election by a month, giving Harsdorf four more weeks to effectively campaign against Moore. Does the term mean something different today? Does calling him a "protest candidate" somehow make the effort more noble?
Thurston Howell III
8:34 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
I have to give Weix credit for this. NOBODY can pry $200 dollars out of the hands of John Manard. LOL see PDF above.
http://www.forbes.com/wealth/forbes-400/list
Joan Schneider
8:56 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Hey Mike,
How are you doing with the debate dates that Sheila is having a difficult time setting???She claimed to me(during the Hudson parade) that there will be three. When I asked her when she just moved her head, like a bobble-head. So when will she debate? Time is moving on and the question remains, will Sheila ever set the dates to debate???????Maybe she will debate when there isn't any time left to report on the debate before the August 9th election. Guess I can't wait to ask her why she broke the Covenant with Wisconsin 8th grade students? Why she feels tax cuts for the rich are more important that BadgerCare for those with less money? Why she fels it would be cheaper to care for Grandma in a nursing home rather than FamilyCare for Grandma?? I sure hope the debates will each last a long time because I have a long list of questions for the lady who doesn't seem to take questions from the voters. We might need 24/7 after reading all of the bills that have become law in WI.
I sometimes wonder why she doesn't spend more time answering the voters questions than she spends putting on makeup before the parades...???
Micheal Foley
11:45 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
I'll let you know more after the primary.
Thurston Howell III
8:58 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Another example of Weix hypocrisy: Seems he's not against "Big Government" when the dollars flow into his pocket. http://tinyurl.com/6h7nq7j
Thurston Howell III
9:11 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Marcia, You might want to refer to the Gospel of Mathew, Chapter 7. “Judge not, that you be not judged. 2For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. 3Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? 4Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.
Thurston Howell III
9:16 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Marcia, A message to you from William Shakespeare "Methinks thou dost protest too much"
http://tinyurl.com/69v3xxo
Thurston Howell III
10:53 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
You are right and here is the proof. http://tinyurl.com/6br8vnv
Marcia
11:15 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
th3, marxist, no, how funny. i'm a money hungry capitalist all the way. that quote is more of a progressive way of life.
Happy Badger
11:24 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
In May, the Harsdorf campaign was shocked and indignant that the Moore campaign would be in the same BUILDING as Advancing Wisconsin. At the time, Nathan Duerkop protested, "This week’s moves by Moore’s campaign show the obvious…” (Hudson Patch, May 13)
Today, Mr. Duerkop explains the connection between Harsdorf's campaign and their Republican roommates: "We share space in name and that's about it," Duerkop said…"what they want to do is up to them…”
Right.
You couldn’t make this stuff up.
Joan Schneider
11:32 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
My question...do they really think we are that stupid? They are in bed together and have been from the start.
That is exactly why many people don't trust the St. Croix Republican party or Sheila Harsdorf.
My husband refers to this type of political double speak as Liesdorf!!
Happy Badger
11:34 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
Honestly, Joan, I don't think they really care what anybody outsid the rank-and-file, card-carrying GOP and/or TEA Party thinks.
Shannon
11:39 pm on Monday, July 11, 2011
They will care when they see how many moderates and independents start voting Democratic.
Paul
5:04 am on Tuesday, July 12, 2011
St. Croix County Republicans Campaigning for 'Democrat' Weix in Wisconsin Senate Recall Primary
Why is this the Headline? Shame on the Patch. You know full well that Weix is not a Democrat. So, why run this Headline when you know better? Why not call Weix what he really is. a Republican? Just goes to show how slanted the Patch really is. Shame on you at the PAtch.
And why was my last post deleted?
Micheal Foley
8:53 am on Tuesday, July 12, 2011
That's why I put quote marks around Democrat. I wanted to get across in the headline that Republicans are actively helping a person running as a Democrat, but who really isn't a Democrat. I don't think it's slanted at all.
I had to remove a handful of comments because they were personal attacks on other users. Another I had to remove because it contained masked profanity. I'm not sure which comment was yours.
Thurston Howell III
10:07 am on Tuesday, July 12, 2011
Mike, I know you're trying to be as fair as possible. Don't you think Cow Dung should be required to use a different profile name, if you're going to get rid of comments with "masked" profanity?
Micheal Foley
11:43 am on Tuesday, July 12, 2011
In a perfect world, everyone would use their real names, even you. I can't do much about that without stifling the forum. I can, however, enforce the part of the terms of use that prohibits masked profanity. In fact, enforcing that rule makes this a better forum for all involved. Wouldn't you agree?
Joan Schneider
11:58 am on Tuesday, July 12, 2011
Pick up your feet folks. When Shelly Moore wins today the mud, cow dung, or horse you know what will start flying from the Liesdorf campaign. All of those groups she has nothing to do with., all of those out of state people that Sheila has been crying about for close to 20 years will all be throwing you know what at the people of the 10th district.Plug your ears, cover your eyes, watch your phone calls and be careful about opening your mail because they will be everywhere with all of the biggest lies you have ever heard and the candidate who needs a bobblehead will be just standing there with that smile and all of that makeup on.
Aging1
6:40 pm on Tuesday, July 12, 2011
My grandfather was a progressive republican WI state senator, assemblyman and a Congressman for many years. He would be tossing in his grave if he knew what has happened to his republican party. I always tried to be fair when voting. I read both sides of the issue and voted for the candidate I thought best represented my beliefs. After receiving 3 robo-calls from Jesse telling me to vote for the "fake" democrat, I got so disgusted that I vowed never to vote for another republican as long as I live. Maybe those calls didn't have the intended effect! By the way, I'm not ashamed to use my real name.
KTinWI
6:08 am on Wednesday, July 13, 2011
I think the GOP has lost its way and isn't taking care of its moderate base.
Paul
10:48 pm on Tuesday, July 12, 2011
That's why I was confused. It didn't contain either.
Happy Badger
11:24 pm on Tuesday, July 12, 2011
When the GOP decided on their primary election strategy to field “protest candidates,” saying they were just buying time for their folks to campaign, they lost any grounds to complain about the cost of the election. What did tonight’s farce needlessly cost the taxpayers? When they pulled out the stops last weekend and switched from “protest” mode to “spoiler” mode, declaring their intent to upend the real Dems in tonight’s elections, they wound up with egg on their faces. They failed in all six districts. I wouldn’t go so far as to say tonight’s results look great for Shelly Moore with regard to the road ahead, but the GOP’s changed strategy to try and pull off a cross-over win makes them look like petulant losers.
Paul
11:05 am on Sunday, July 17, 2011
Here is a comparison of the Budgets. So if we are in such a Fiscal Crisis why are we spending more money? And if we are cutting all these programs and wages were is the money going to?
http://legis.wisconsin.gov/senate/sen31/news/Issues/2011-12-Budget/Comparison_of_09-11__11-13_appropriations__revenue%20061311.pdf
William Welbes
11:43 am on Sunday, July 17, 2011
Walker started with a budget that was forcasted to have a 120-130 million dollar surplus. Then he gave away 800 million in tax breaks creating a false crisis.
Paul
10:04 pm on Monday, July 18, 2011
Why are the increase in Property Taxes?
Thurston Howell III
2:06 am on Tuesday, July 19, 2011
Paul you can submit questions for the Patch debate. This sounds like a good one.
You may want to rephrase it though. LOL Why will Property Taxes Increase? Wouldn't it be nice if the fat cats that got the tax breaks could answer this?
Paul
5:33 am on Tuesday, July 19, 2011
The Hudson Fish Wrapper clearly stated our Property Taxes will be increaseing due the the shortfall this Budget Harsdorf helped write and endorsed.
William Welbes
10:21 am on Tuesday, July 19, 2011
Look at Minnesota to see the impact of the state budget cuts on property taxes. The only difference will be that in the Walker budget the tax increase is limited, which means the difference will be passed on through service fees and job cuts at the city and county level. At the state level your taxes will go down, on the local level you will pay significantly more. The best part is sincee the new tax and fee collection is more disjointed and will end up costing the cities and counties more to process the collections and set up the systems to do it, we will all end up paying more to get less. In Minnesota total property costs (fees plus taxes) have doubled in three years and the city of saint paul is indicating there will be a larger increase this year. Plus the schools need to add another 2.5% to the tax bill to cover thier increased cost of borrowing since the majority of thier funding wont be received till next year. Ironically no new taxes and freezing the state budget or cutting the budget, really means push the problem on to the local governments and let them take the heat by raising taxes.These no new taxes politicians are nothing more than smoke and mirrors policy hacks who are going to cost us far more than they ever will save.