Letters to the Editor: June 2, 2012

Hudson Patch letters to the editor received within the past week.

Our State, Our Choice

Let’s put politics aside and ask one simple question. What do we want our state to be like in the future? Wisconsin does not belong to politicians; it belongs to us, and we decide the direction we’d like to see it go.

My wife was interviewing her grandfather about life in the Great Depression. One thing he said always stood out to me. He said the Great Depression didn’t hit Wisconsin that hard, because everyone pitched in to help their neighbors. If someone didn’t have a tractor, their neighbor came over with his. People took their extra crops over to their neighbors who had less. How are we going to handle our hard times?

When I moved here 11 years ago, Wisconsin was still that place where everyone helped when it was needed. Is it still? That’s up to us. We are judged by how we respond in bad times. The same is true of our state. June 5, we are making long term decisions for Wisconsin. Do you want it to be run by someone who wants to “divide and conquer” during hard times, or someone who is more moderate and believes that we ALL need to pitch in to pull ourselves up. That was the Wisconsin of my wife’s grandfather, and I think that’s the Wisconsin we all really want.

Lastly, killing unions will not get rid of powerful, special interests. It will only make sure that WI is bought by powerful, wealthy individuals and companies. Just look at those states that have gone this direction. Or look at our new appointed deer czar from Texas, who wants to exchange hunting on public lands for private. That’s not the Wisconsin that we want, is it? I know it’s not the Wisconsin that our grandparents wanted.

    --Scott Herron, New Richmond resident


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ThingsThatMakeYouGo-Hmmmm June 03, 2012 at 02:43 AM
You have provided us some excellent food for thought. Very well written, Scott. It has saddened me that neighbors have gotten so viscous in their talk of one another. I had thought that we lived in a state which operated as a democracy and could delegate authority to responsible leaders. Unfortunately, the necessity has arisen to micromanage and question every decision by our Governor. He has not honored the will of the people of this state. Very simple. When the people can no longer trust that the Governor of their own state has their best interests in mind and heart, regardless of their political affiliations, we are no longer delegating authority. He has broken our trust as a delegate. In considering opinions of out-of-state politicians, donors, national political party leaders (or, for that matter, anything) outside the state, he has further usurped our authority over OUR OWN STATE. Wisconsinites should be responsible for Wisconsin. Very simple. Federal issues should remain federal. Governor Walker, please run for President (unless you would then take funds from outside the country....) and leave our state to its citizens.
Adam Wienieski June 04, 2012 at 03:02 AM
Of course, we're only asked to put politics aside when the left is losing. When democrats win as they did in 2008 the need to be apolitical suddenly disappears and we're informed "we won" and that elections have consequences. But the pendulum swings both ways and liberals need to understand history is not a ratchet that only goes from progressive to socialist. What the people of Wisconsin gave state workers in 1932; the privilege to bargain collectively can be modified by the people (Act 10) to exclude unions from owning their own insurance companies like WEA and then compelling local school districts to purchase health insurance at above market rates. In the interest of fiscal continence, in the face of a curiously anemic economic recovery, even public union employees must be asked to pitch in. The people who went through the Great Depression had the advantage of not expecting the government to help. If they didn't look out for each other nobody would, with the limited exception of the church. They were self-sufficient as opposed to the post Great Society generations who are dependent on the state to buy their food, pay their rent and provide their medical care. In 2003 14,000 elderly died during a heat wave in France because everybody expected the health system to take care of them during the crises. The great lesson of socialism is that which is everybody's responsibility is nobody's responsibility.
Adam Wienieski June 04, 2012 at 03:38 AM
Speaking of vicious, how about Teamsters President Jimmy Hoffa saying in a speech last Labor Day that unions should fight a "war" with tea partiers and congressional Republicans. "President Obama, this is your army," Hoffa proclaimed. "We are ready to march. Let’s take these sons of bitches out and take America back to where America we belong." A one off? How about Donna Dewitt, the President of the South Carolina AFL-CIO using a baseball bat to smack a pinata with the face of S.C. Gov. Nikki Haley on it. http://youtu.be/Xz5o0bwUdio Can you imagine the hue and cry if Republicans were using a baseball bat on the effigy of a female governor of a Southern state? The MSM would be shouting it from the rooftops. It was obvious from the beginning of the recall effort that vast sums of out of state union money and efforts would be utilized to unseat Walker. Not willing to unilaterally disarm Walker raised money from out of state conservatives who understand what's at stake in this election. It's encouraging to hear you're a big believer in state's rights and limited government as opposed to a massive, activist federal government and liberal courts who discover constitutional rights to abortion and gay marriage. It bodes well for the future of Wisconsin and the country.
Jim June 04, 2012 at 08:17 PM
You have provided us some excellent food for thought. Very well written, Adamt. It has saddened me that neighbors have gotten so viscous in their talk of one another. Unions have been the largest polarizing force in the USA. France indeed failed its citzens and thousands died while everyone was on "Holiday". Understand in France everyone takes the summer off and rides the bullet train to the South of France to vacation. During this "Holiday" time Paris has few employees to take care of the elderly. With no safety net and lack of modern conviences like air conditioning the elderly are left to bake. A classic example of failed socialism which is where liberals lead by Obama is taking the USA.
BRG June 05, 2012 at 02:05 AM
Adam and Jim- Your posts are the epitomy of what is wrong with politics. When citizens talk about reponsible and equitable policy, you label them and their ideas "socialist". There is a HUGE difference between being fair, reasonable, responsible, equitable and being "socialist". I consider myself moderate. There are some policies Gov. Walker has been able to pass, such as concealed carry, that I fully support. But there are others, such as Act 10, voter ID, right to work, and the increasing facts pointing toward private management of public land that I do not. When I share my opinions with those who consider themselves Republican, they hastily label me a Liberal and Socialist. When I share my opinions with those who consider themselves Dems, never once have I been labelled or slandered with names. It is a sad day when so many have bought into the notion that you are either on one side or the other, and mindlessly play "follow the leader" or "simon says" without thought of the greater whole. You might stand with Walker, but you better ask yourself, "Does he stand with US?"
Tophat12 June 12, 2012 at 02:55 AM
Very good points. Also keep in mind that it was not the unions that signed the petitions to recall Walker. It just alarms me when there are people in line waiting to vote that don't know why they are voting and then hearing others around him telling him who to vote for. Sad!
Chadwick June 12, 2012 at 02:50 PM
It truly amazes me that the Patch continues to let Scott's letters be printed when they are complete liberal propaganda with little to no facts. His statement about deer hunting was rated as "pants on fire" on politifact: http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2012/jun/04/tom-barrett/recall-challenger-tom-barrett-says-scott-walker-ha/ I would much rather have money in the pockets of corporations large and small along with all of the citizens of the US rather than in the pockets of govt officials trying to buy votes and campaign donations with their votes. It saddens me that this is coming from a teacher who obviously does very little research other than reading one of the many left wing blogs every morning.
Micheal Foley June 12, 2012 at 02:52 PM
Feel free to submit your letters and continue to comment.
sam June 12, 2012 at 03:56 PM
um... I believe Jim and thingsthatmakeyougohmmmm are the same person, and paid to post here maybe? Why did their comments start with the EXACT same language??
Micheal Foley June 12, 2012 at 04:02 PM
It's called copy/paste.
Jim June 12, 2012 at 04:43 PM
Indeed, the copy/paste was done because Adam's position on the subject is very good. Scott, not so much. Scott has lived in Wisconsin 11 years and has the gall to judge the majority of Wisconsin voters. Maybe Scott's homeland is calling?
Jim Bob June 13, 2012 at 04:18 AM
Chad, do you prefer complete conservative propaganda? Did you just start reading letters to the editor? I've been reading l2e's for decades and rarely read one that is fair and balance.
Chadwick June 13, 2012 at 12:44 PM
Sue, No, just anything with a glimpse of reality and truth is nice.
Money Bagger June 13, 2012 at 01:02 PM
@ Chad, You must be one of the "Patriots" who defend the Constitution through Censorship! Keep up the good work!
Gus Johnson June 13, 2012 at 02:30 PM
If he had not honored the will of the people as you state, the people would not have voted him back in by a 12 point margin. He won because it was the "will of the people". You are correct though in that you state," Wisconsinites should be responsible for WI". That statement should mena private citizens of WI not the UNIONS of WI.
Chadwick June 13, 2012 at 02:54 PM
Skippy, censorship? By asking a paper to not print blatant hack jobs that some people, such as yourself, might actually think they have a basis in fact? Considering the amount of knowledge you put into the comment you would look a lot better if Michael had censored your comment.


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