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VIDEO: North Hudson Residents Ask Tough Questions About Referendum

School District officials delivered a 45-minute information presentation about the proposed $8.25 million St. Croix Meadows dog track purchase. They fielded audience questions for about an hour.

Nearly 50 North Hudson residents got their chance Monday, Feb. 27, to hear officials make the case to purchase the St. Croix Meadows dog track property for $8.25 million.

Hudson School District Superintendent Mary Bowen-Eggebraaten and Board of Education member Tom Holland delivered a 45-minute information presentation and fielded questions for about an hour at . It was the first of throughout the district before voters decide on the referendum on April 3.

Hudson Resident February 28, 2012 at 07:09 PM
Well said country boy. Seems like the school board has a hard time with the argument when opposing facts are presented. Instead they shut down the meeting!
Thurston Howell III February 28, 2012 at 09:05 PM
I'm the curious sort, so I went to where this video is hosted and discovered a whole lot more video of this event not mentioned in the article above. Gee Golly I wonder why that is? FYI: Maybe if the presentation was made more easily accessible, some questions may have been answered that WERE pertinent! Glad to see this even covered so thoroughly. Part 1 http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/20746492 Part2 http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/20746678 Part3 http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/20746750 Part4 http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/20746776 Part 5 http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/20746968 Part 6 http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/20746968
Micheal Foley February 28, 2012 at 09:44 PM
Hey folks. Make sure to refrain from making personal attacks in these comments. Attack the argument, not the person.
Micheal Foley February 28, 2012 at 09:48 PM
Thanks, Thurston. I did the best I could. I had trouble maintaining an Internet connection. I presented the longest uninterrupted segment I had. If you're looking for a video in which the district lays out its case, here's one: http://patch.com/A-qF9S. I hope I can get a better web connection at the next meeting.
country boy February 28, 2012 at 09:56 PM
TH3: Thanks for the links! Michael, No dissing here...what I stated are the facts of what transpired as seen in the video. There are opponents and backers for this project as displayed at the presentation. The district needs to get their act together with more information/facts in order to have a chance to sell this "referendum". I am not convinced either way from what was put on the table so far. Lets see what transpires at the next gathering..........
Micheal Foley February 29, 2012 at 12:34 AM
I just uploaded a PDF version of the district's presentation slides. It should be attach to this post as soon as it is done processing.
Thurston Howell III February 29, 2012 at 02:08 AM
Country Boy, Glad to help get the whole picture here with the links. From what I see, People have an expectation to have a price tag for the whole package, which is reasonable. However, I think it's clear that with the time constraints imposed by the Dog Track owner this is a one time opportunity that should SAVE the district money in the long run. I was a skeptic too, but I think I've been convinced that most if not all of the reasonable options have been explored by the district and this is the best of the available solutions. This issue has been going on a long long time, at least since '04. People can continue to nitpick and we can wait another 7 or 8 years will the crowding for our kids keeps getting worse. Hey, I pay taxes too, and I don't really like it, but sometimes you have to put the interest of the community above your own.
mainstreet February 29, 2012 at 02:31 AM
Time constraint by the track owner? Get serious TH3. He doesn't have another offer and if he does its for less. If the SD gives it up, it keeps property on the tax roll. If this is actually the case that there is another offer it is kind of a no brainer for rezoning issue.
Hudson Resident February 29, 2012 at 03:54 AM
Then why don't you write them a check and leave the rest of us out it?
Hudson Resident February 29, 2012 at 03:55 AM
That question was meant for Thursty....
Thurston Howell III February 29, 2012 at 07:53 AM
I guess somebody didn't like my answer. I won't repeat it.
Thurston Howell III February 29, 2012 at 07:55 AM
I'll only say, Watch the video, you may learn something. @HR... I'm not a Republican, can't afford that. Maybe you should build a private school at the Dog Track.
Thurston Howell III February 29, 2012 at 01:08 PM
@Mainstreet, Get your facts straight. The details of the offer were explained in the presentation, which you obviously didn't take the time to watch. Yeah there is a time constraint. Hudson Resident, It's Mr. Howell to you!
Hudson Resident February 29, 2012 at 02:02 PM
So you're more interested in spending your neighbor's money than your own right Thursty? How philanthopic of you.
Dirk A. February 29, 2012 at 02:10 PM
It's called "the more you spend, the more you save" mentality. TH3, I can't be a democrat for the same reason you list for not being a republican. I can't afford it.
Thurston Howell III February 29, 2012 at 03:23 PM
Then don't "invest" in anything. Any fool should be able to see that buying a $40 Million Dollar property for $ 8 million is a bargain. I don't think there any real Republicans left, Folks here have all gone Tea Party! Funny think for Partiers none of you seem very happy. Just observin' Seriously Dirk, at my house value they claim it's going to cost me $8 dollars. Maybe at you're $11.00. If you can't afford that, that is just sad. Yeah I know there will be more on top to build. Actually, I will pay the $ 8 bucks for one of you.
Dirk A. February 29, 2012 at 03:24 PM
We agree on something, TH3. A fool will see this as a bargain. Luckily, it appears that most of us "ain't pickin' up what the School Board is layin' down".
Micheal Foley February 29, 2012 at 03:26 PM
I just want to reiterate that we need to keep this forum civil. No namecalling. No personal attacks. It's OK to disagree, but be neighborly about it.
Hudson Resident February 29, 2012 at 04:04 PM
The property is not "worth" $40 million. The property is only worth what a buyer is willing to pay. That "worth" would by $8 million. And the actual worth might be less if the school district was taken out of the equation. And to say that this is only going to cost $8 then I encourge you to look at your property tax statement to view your current school taxes, keeping in minad that this is only 50% of the total taxation needed to operate the government schools. The balance comes from our income tax. Salaries and benefits comprise over 85% of the budget for most school districts and Hudson is no different. Therefore the cost of the building purchase is only a small fraction of what the total tax impact will be.
mainstreet February 29, 2012 at 04:53 PM
@TH3. No I did not watch the video - no high speed internet out here and it takes to long to load them. Maybe the guberment can help me out :) All purchase agreements have time constraints. The track as been dormant for years - there is no one else in line to buy the place or they would have sold it. The Haveniciks aren't doing this as a favor to the school district rest assured. Thus there should be no rush to buy it without having a detailed plan in place for the property. At this point I'm neither for or against it. I just think the SD needs to have a detailed plan in place for the entire project. That is what would be required in any prudent business decision. In fact, without that plan you and I would not have a shot at getting a loan to buy the property - but hey its just tax dollars - no loan required.
Thurston Howell III February 29, 2012 at 05:04 PM
Neighbors help neighbors Mike, There's lots of folks who don't seem to want their neighbors kids get an education or their teacher neighbors earn a decent wage for their hard work. It's pretty hard to be neighborly in that toxic environment. Just sayin' ... again.
Micheal Foley February 29, 2012 at 05:06 PM
Hard, but not impossible. Just try harder.
Thurston Howell III February 29, 2012 at 05:25 PM
It's not like I'm not trying. I mean I offered to ease the $8.00 tax burden of one of these poor folks. How much more "neighborly" can you get than that?
Paul March 01, 2012 at 02:58 AM
Wow, I would hope that you get a better connection just for solid business practice.
Paul March 01, 2012 at 03:07 AM
TH3, you being mean to the wing nuts on here on the dog patch?
Micheal Foley March 01, 2012 at 03:19 AM
I'm working on it, Paul. This was the first webcast with a new setup. Live webcasts always depend on the quality of the connection and the bandwidth available. In addition, I ordered an external mic system that i'm hoping to have in place next time I attempt a stream.
Thurston Howell III March 01, 2012 at 10:13 AM
Nope! Being Neighborly!
Thurston Howell III March 04, 2012 at 09:16 PM
"mainstreet" "@TH3. No I did not watch the video - no high speed internet out here and it takes to long to load them. Maybe the guberment can help me out :)" I'd be all for the Guvmint helping you out!... Looks like you're in a dead zone that the "free market" wants to neglect. Lucky you. :-)
mainstreet March 04, 2012 at 09:35 PM
Yep its a dead zone, but that's OK. I can get along without Utube, Facebook, and all that other meaningless crap! It does make it a little tough to keep up with all the real stuff going on that the MSM doesn't cover, but I can read.
Bob Simmons March 07, 2012 at 11:05 PM
I agree with Micheal, give him a break. He has given us an excellent forum for a host of information which keeps growing due to his hard work. As revenue from sponsors grow so will his operation. Anyone who wants to lend a hand that has expertise I'm sure Micheal would have open ears.

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