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MAP: Wisconsin Property in the Path of the St. Croix River Crossing Project

At least one Houlton farmer is upset about the St. Croix River Crossing Project and what it will do to farmland that has been in his family for generations. Who else is in the project's path?

Not everyone in Wisconsin is thrilled about the St. Croix River Crossing Project.

The Star Tribune on Tuesday published a story by Kevin Giles and Andrew Johnson about disgruntled Houlton farmer Ed Gillstrom. Gillstrom's land is in the direct path of what will become an expressway connecting the current Highway 35/64 to the new bridge, and he's concerned about what will be left of his hay fields after the new highway is built.

READ THE FULL STAR TRIBUNE ARTICLE

A quick look at St. Croix County property records shows the apparent path the new highway will take and property owners who likely will be affected.

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WHO'S IN THE PATH?

According to 2011 property tax records, the land is owned by the following people and corporations.

  • RED: Wisconsin Department of Transportation
  • BLUE: Edward & Mary Gillstrom
  • YELLOW: Peter C., Bridget A. & Paul Lentz
  • GREEN: St. Croix Meadows Inc., a corporation based in Cottage Grove
  • ORANGE: St. Joseph Development, a corporation based in Lake Elmo
  • PURPLE: John E. & Marlene Garner
  • BROWN: Keith B. & Peggy L. Nelson
Jim May 10, 2012 at 04:00 PM
Water from the Tamarac river flows directly into the Saint Croix river and the water from the chemical dump site flows directly into the Tamarack river. All this flowage is in the Saint Croix river watershed. Of course you know this and are just having a little fun, right Bob? You pay for 1/2 the gas and I'll take you for a tour of the toxic waste dump near Bruno. It's a 1.5 hour drive wth the last 8 miles on dirt. We may even see a 2 headed deer with black helicopters flying overhead. Have a fine time on the "Pristine Saint Croix River", NOT.
Alex Mundy May 10, 2012 at 04:52 PM
Jim, a friend of mine at the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency directed me to a 2004 report on "Condition of Rivers and Streams in the St. Croix River Basin." That report states that "water quality in the basin was found to be generally good from a chemical perspective," that "streams in the St. Croix River Basin were generally in fair to excellent condition," and stressed that it was important to maintain maintain the "excellent condition of the St. Croix River, a most valuable resource." No mention of a toxic waste dump polluting the St. Croix via the Tamarack. I suppose it's just another government cover-up.
Jim May 10, 2012 at 07:11 PM
Bob, What would call a toxic waste dump used by a refinery for an unknown number of years to dump unknown quantities of liquid stuff into? And now there is NO TRACE of it in any publication, web site or other source. Would you call that transparency, Bob? BTW, my offer stands if you want a tour of the site, or anyone else for that matter.
Jim May 10, 2012 at 08:35 PM
I understand Bob nor anyone else wants to see the dump site. It IS NOT pretty. Bob and anyone else who should care about this dump site reallys knows it exists. Bob is just playing games, won't take a tour of something he knows exists. I can give you a long list of local contacts who will tell you all about the dump. At this point in time it's stuffed under the rug. In the chemical industry you know "the solution to pollution is dilution". And in this case the dilution is provided by the Tamarak River, Saint Croix River, Lake Saint Croix, Mississippi River and ultimatly the Gulf of Mexico.
Micheal Foley May 10, 2012 at 08:43 PM
Jim: If you've got so much to say about this dump site, why don't you take advantage of our Local Voices platform. You'll have your own spot on Patch to say whatever you like. Sign up at http://stillwater.patch.com/blog/apply
kk May 10, 2012 at 09:30 PM
when i was a realty specialist for federal government i was accused of over paying for property i purchased. there are rules that have to be followed when property is purchased by condemnation. i have real farmland in the red river valley of western mn that a private company used condemnation to put a power line thru for you to get electricity from the power plants in north dakota. i will agree with you if it is your belief i can go blow up the towers that have extremely comprimised the farming on the real farmable land as opposed to the blackish crap in this area.
Micheal Foley May 10, 2012 at 11:24 PM
I just added a couple of photos to the post. They're both screen grabs of the video, and they show the Highway 35 S overpass and the Highway 64/35-County Road E interchange just east of Houlton Elementary School. The northeast quadrant of that interchange is where Ed Gillstrom's hay field is.
Jim May 11, 2012 at 12:34 AM
Interesting property in Minnesota needed for the bridge was aquired 30 years ago but the property in Wisconsin was not. Just saying.
Jim May 11, 2012 at 12:45 AM
Not much more to say regarding the pollution of the "Pristine Saint Croix River". I'll be happy to give a guided tour of the toxic dump site if anyone is interested. Of course permition would be needed from the owner.
country boy May 11, 2012 at 05:03 AM
Jim, When you can succumb to the fact that your factless rants, suppositions, and hyperbole is not going to get what you want...your healing process can begin. NO north corridor suspension bridge= DEAD! If and when you can gather together a coalition to support your mindless dedication to something that will never happen..I will be there to push over your house of cards with pleasure. Your credibility = ZIP! You have proven yourself as a self appointed spokesman of nothing. GIVE IT A REST before you implode dude!
Micheal Foley May 11, 2012 at 02:03 PM
Perhaps you could do a video tour and post it on Local Voices.
Jim May 11, 2012 at 02:32 PM
CB came out of the woods again, you visit the public library to use the WEB?
Carbon Bigfuut May 12, 2012 at 03:33 PM
The property in lower OPH for the new bridge was aquired about 15 years ago, Jim. On the WI side, it was unknown exactly where the bridge would connect, but most of the plans for the MN side used the same place.
Carbon Bigfuut May 12, 2012 at 03:37 PM
Jim, where would your proposed highway run on the MN side? To get a straight shot across to Andersen Scout Camp Rd, it looks like a lot of residential area would be affected. It would also go through the middle of the Scout Camp on the WI side.
country boy May 13, 2012 at 03:16 AM
Jim, Answer Carbon Bigfuut with one actual fact if you can. Ranting and deflecting from reality is what your M.O. really seems to center on. The fact is the bridge will be built. Why is it you keep bleating about a north corridor with a suspension bridge that will NEVER EVER happen. Your inability to get that point places you in the category of a non-player here. Your fantasy house of cards for a coalition to support your delusion will never gain any traction. Where have you been the last 30 years? You should have been attending the meetings for real information and decision making that came from public input as I have. Correct Information and facts is what I use and support when posting here....not some feeble minded attempt at winning favor for a long lost idea that was given the boot 20+ years ago. You need a reality check! By the way, I like the woods. It is better than the tilted small world that you reside in revolving around fact-less suppositions and innuendos that you base your beliefs (facts as you say) on. You have toasted your credibility with a majority of your baseless non-fact posts. Jim: 3 strikes = out of the game. Country Boy: 3 home runs and still sendin' them out of the park.
Jim May 13, 2012 at 03:32 AM
In Wisconsin 158th ave or Anderson Scout Camp road would be used and where it breaks south on the bluff the bridge could begin and run directly across the Saint Croix River. Minnesota residential property could be traded for the previously taken residential property in OPH or emmient domain could be used . The property that has been sitting empty in OPH could be liquidated which would be worth more money than the property north of Stillwater. The route across a narrows crossing north of Stillwater could use Manning to 95 to the bridge. A 2 lane road with no stopsigns or stoplights could easily handle 20,000 vehicles per day. Highway 36 in Maplewood and Oakdale is 4 lanes, handles 40,000 vehicles per day and it has numerous stoplights on it. Unless Wisconsin develops like Hudson there is no need to construct a 4 lane bridge across Lake Saint Croix. With the price of gas skyrocketing, President Obama is planning to see to it that gas costs well over $5/gal in his second term. It is his way of reducing oil consumption by the USA, not a bad idea. In any case commuting 20 miles from Wisconsin to the cities won't be an option for the average Joe or Jane for that matter.
Jim May 13, 2012 at 03:33 AM
Night CB.
Carbon Bigfuut May 13, 2012 at 06:12 PM
Jim, I assumed that Manning Ave. would be used, but Manning doesn't connect to Hwy. 95 - they both run north-south. Since you seem to think you're a planning expert, please specify EXACTLY where this road should go between Manning and 95. You can use references like "From x Ave. to Y Ave., the road would run between A St. and B. St."
Jim May 13, 2012 at 09:54 PM
Manning to 96 to 95 to the Scout Camp road in Wisc, as if you couldn't figure it out.
Carbon Bigfuut May 14, 2012 at 02:09 AM
Exactly where on 95 would the bridge go? Quit evading the question, or admit that you don't know what you're talking about.
Jim May 14, 2012 at 03:39 AM
Manning to 96 to 95 to the Scout Camp road in Wisc, as if you couldn't figure it out.
Carbon Bigfuut May 14, 2012 at 01:34 PM
And Jim admits that he doesn't have the answer...
country boy May 14, 2012 at 01:44 PM
Jim, I see you are still kicking your dead horse of a north corridor. Ok, Mr self appointed planner = explain how that suspension(sic) bridge will be placed on the Mn side with the existing topography at your (planned) site. I thought not. You don't have the facts to support your "house of cards". As I posted previously, where were you over the last 30 yrs when numerous mtgs. and planning sessions were happening? In the real world the "try and uselessly beat something down after the decision was made" does not work well. Are you a member of the NIMBY club? By the way, I like coming out of the woods in the morning to read your latest post with no factual information to back it up other than your conjecture........Your credibility is slipping farther into the abyss.
Jim May 14, 2012 at 09:17 PM
Manning to 96 to 95 to the Scout Camp road in Wisc, as if you couldn't figure it out.
Carbon Bigfuut May 14, 2012 at 11:18 PM
Jim, I just came from the Houlton school bridge meeting. There were pictures and maps of the planned new bridge in line with Hwy. 36, but I didn't see a table with your maps and detailed plans on it. When I asked the MNDOT guys about it, they ran out of the room laughing.
Micheal Foley May 14, 2012 at 11:24 PM
I was at the open house too. I'll have a story about it in the next day or two. The map above shows the land that DOT currently owns (acquired in the '90s), but they'll actually have to acquire a different corridor further south and east. Hopefully when they sell the other land off they give first dibs to the people they originally took it from.
Susan May 14, 2012 at 11:44 PM
Thanks for the update on the WIDOT land purchase date that I spoke of earlier. Seems my information was incorrect, or I was misled.
country boy May 15, 2012 at 02:09 AM
Jim, Were you at the Houlton school tonight to present your "facts" for the north corridor to MNDot and WISDot for their reconsideration? Or maybe attending to pick up some real information instead of conjecture.
Jim May 20, 2012 at 03:18 PM
MnPCA map clearly shows the Tamarack river dumping intothe Saint Croix River: http://www.pca.state.mn.us/index.php/water/water-types-and-programs/minnesotas-impaired-waters-and-tmdls/tmdl-projects/st.-croix-river-basin-tmdl-projects/project-lake-st.-croix-excess-nutrients.html Again if anyone wants a tour of the toxic waste dump 8 miles east and a mile south of Bruno I'd ba happy to arrange same. And now we have a Sand mine dumping sludge into the Pristine Saint Croix River, http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2012/05/18/environment/frac-sand-sediment-saint-croix-spill/ Government has consistantly failed to monitor industrial operatings leading to pollution of the Saint Croix River and Lake Saint Croix.
Micheal Foley June 09, 2012 at 09:57 PM
I just posted an update you'll probably want to check out: http://patch.com/A-tXtX. It shows how property bought by WisDOT in the 1990s won't be used for the project and what property owners will have to give up property because of updated designs.

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